a shaking gun. because the man that had the gun to my head, unbe knowing to me, was my customer at the main office, and i had gone -- >> -- used the word on other occasions -- >> no, no, no. >> other than that one time in the bank, a robbery attempt, you're telling me you have never used the "n" word? >> i never. i never. they asked me in all of my 66 years on earth had i ever used it. >> she lost me on that. in the deposition, she said of course, meaning, oh, i've used it -- you wouldn't say of course if you used it 30 years ago -- >> how would you use it if a guy has a shaking gae ining gun to ? >> that's a good point. >> strategy -- >> talk him down, say, please, sir, here's the money. >> not the time for a racial slur. no. so we know that didn't fly at all. and to say she only used it one time in 30 years. >> come on.